AllHipHop.com: You guys made timeless music, we always say that the type of music Hip-Hop is, when we are older we wont really be able to enjoy it
Rick: Hip-Hop is a replica or a refurbished version of old school. When you cant make a hit record unless you do a Rick James album what does that tell you? On one hand I love it, but on the other hand it is taking music out of schools and kids dont know how to play instruments. They resort to the best thing they know how, like black people surviving, taking away an art form. Can I really love that? I am pro-black, so for me to see these kids grow up in the projects and they cant play nothing, but they can take a Rick James record and turn that around the turntable as Rap: sitting, drinking Crystal. I mean its a beautiful thing just as well. AllHipHop.com: What do you think about kids not playing instruments, I am a former musician myself I used to take interest in guitar and drums
Rick: I think it is a very sad thing, I think its a plot by the government, number 1 to take music out of schools. I think it is the worst thing that the government has done to the educational program. When I was growing up, you could play guitar, drums, saxophone, learn music theory, harmony all that s**t. Now, you cant even get an instrument in high school and kids have nothing to r resort too, and thats a very sad thing. AllHipHop.com: Can you speak on that project that you, Kanye West and Bumpy Johnson are doing? What did you guys do together? Rick: Well thats a very strange thing, how that happened. My son called me up once when I talked to him, and said to me that his favorite rapper was Kanye West, and I didnt know who the hell Kanye West was. He had introduced me to Andre from Outkast in Atlanta and I didnt know who the hell he was either. I was wearing an Outkast shirt that I had bought, so I went over to him and we talked, I told him I loved all his records, but I didnt know one record. This Kanye West thing my son turned me on to it too and my ex-wife, she said Rick you have to get this album by this kid, Kanye West, so I said why is it so special? Because he doesnt look like a rapper with gold teeth, baseball hats on the side, hes not talking about b***hes and hoes, and he isnt shooting people. He actually has some religious connotation to his music, which really attracted me. I went and bought the album and I liked it, thought this boy had some talent, next thing I am getting a call to do a Kanye West bit. So you know God works in mysterious ways. AllHipHop.com: So did you play instruments or just sing? Rick: What I did is, I laid about 16 tracks of vocals, just to help with the melody. He was a very sweet kid, very humble. It was really a joy; it is always a joy watching these young kids who learned from us do what they do now. Because a lot of stuff these kids are doing, I cant do. I hear some tracks going on, and say what was he on? I think they need to get together more often. One of the reasons why Andre and Outkast is so great is because they grew up from what he told me, on the old school. I mean he knows about the Beatles; he knows about Rick James, Jimi Hendrix; he has done his homework. Their album is one of the best rap albums I have ever heard. AllHipHop.com: Did you work with Andre? Rick: We are trying to match our schedules, its just that he is so busy now. What he is going through right now, I went through. He is so busy I dont even like bugging him, and we keep missing each other on the phone. He wants to work with me really bad and I want to work with him also. But if we never work together its okay, I just want him to enjoy his fame. Who knows if next year anybody will buy Outkast; and if he strays to far away from his black base, he is really going to lose it. It going to be like a Prince thing, thats what f**ked Prince up; he was getting too white. There is a middle ground there, cause I think me, Stevie Wonder, Earth Wind and Fire, The Commodores got that middle ground, unlike Lenny Kravitz. He wants to do a black thing but he is successful with his white thing, but he doesnt feel comfortable because its a white thing and there are no black people in the crowd. If you have 20,000 white people out there paying 100.00 a ticket, and all are girls, be happy! People come over to my house, musicians, and Lenny wont touch an instrument, because he feels inferior. Think about it, its like Hootie & the Blowfish trying to come up on stage and jam with me. AllHipHop.com: You talking about a double album, talk to me a little bit about that. Rick: Its going to have about 26/27 songs and it is going to be very interesting, it is going to be a lot of things that I always wanted to do. AllHipHop.com: What kind of label situation are you working out? Rick: I am doing my own label, independent. I want to be just like Puffy. I want to make $700 million. If I could have done it 20 years ago, I would have done it. AllHipHop.com: I spoke to Stephanie Mills, and she kind of echoed the same thing about the entrepreneurship of rappers and shes doing her own independent […]