Picture this. A DJ named X-Rays fingers gracefully stroke the smooth surface of vinyl for the likes of MC Shan and EPMD. After being involved in various Hip-Hop entities, he and former Legion of D.U.M.E. member, Kev Roc go on to form a group that will bring a sound to the world that can best be described only by their name, Darc Mind. The two-year process of putting these in-depth, sinister lyrics backed by gritty, old-school beats on wax, takes from 1995-1997. And while the rest of the worlds ears are being graced with fellow Loud label mates, Wu-Tang Clan and Tha Beatnuts, their debut album never reaches the masses due to an unfortunate fold in the record label. Now picture this. Its 2006, and a kid from Brooklyn walks into a record store, or for the sake of the generation, browses an online apple store and comes across an album that sparks his interest. At first when he listens to it something in him, almost cult-like, makes him want to turn it off because it doesnt make his fingers snap or his shoulders lean. But then he hears traces of Nas, Rakim, and Public Enemy sampled in a way hes never heard before and
he really likes it. Having no distinct regional affiliation or even time period, this kid would have never guessed that the album released this year was recorded over ten years ago. This is the journey of the forgotten beginning, frustrating middle, and bright future of Darc Mind. AllHipHop.com: Did the two of your first meet as members of Legion of D.U.M.E. and how did Darc Mind come to be? Kev Roc: Nah, WEB and I first met through a third party, a friend of ours that I knew from school and WEB just knew from around his way, his name is Trace Levine. Trace is a clothing designer, he has line out called Down to Earth that he currently manufactures online and sells from his own shop. Well, Trace put us down back in the day, he had heard me freestyling and he was like, Yeah, Ima turn you onto this cat, he makes beats, yall might be able to do something. So, I met WEB in the summer of 89 and hit him up, got to know one another and started to bang s**t out. AllHipHop.com: Both of you moved to Loud Records after Legion of D.U.M.E. broke up, did you sign with them because of their reputation as a label or because of your relationship with [former D.U.M.E. member turned A&R at Loud] Scott Free? Kev Roc: It was all of those things, actually, it was bigger than that, it was kind of a timing thing. Ya know what Im sayin, it just seemed like a natural progression and in all honesty, it was what was easiest, which was what was bad about it. If it aint hard, it aint worth it, ya know? AllHipHop.com: So, what are your feelings today toward Steve Rifkind? Kev Roc: Oh, its all good, I mean, Steve was always straight up and down with me. I mean, he never misled me in any way, ya know, we didnt keep a great deal of company but, I didnt avail myself to that, WEB did, and he benefited from that. But, its all good with Rif, Rif is doing his thing, I would have liked to have made more of that opportunity but whatever it didnt turn into is no reflection of Rifkind. AllHipHop.com: Loud folded because they didn’t hit sales figures that were expected, now that Steve Rifkind is CEO of SRC, artists such as David Banner and Remy Ma have expressed their frustration with how their projects were handled, what do you attribute this to? Kev Roc: Well, I cant speak with Remy and that other cat, I can only come from my own perspective and the thing I know about working with Rifkind, he gives you the opportunity to really do s**t your own way. The groups that I did see be successful on Loud, they were groups that did all of their own leg work, they did a lot of their own street promotions. They were groups that were gonna succeed whether Rifkind was behind or other entities were behind them and thats not relieve the label of all blame, ya know, they f**cked up along some lines. I think its because they put all their eggs in baskets that were paying at that time. I think they were very in the moment, I think their business practice reflected [them] responding to things in the moment, which at that time was appropriate. I think that was the environment of the record business at that time, so ya know, I really cant be mad. Hip-Hop is bigger than Loud, its bigger than Rifkind, its bigger than Darc Mind, its an ocean man, its bigger than all that. AllHipHop.com: Youve said that you guys made good money messing with Loud, but they were too unorganized. Would you have ended up leaving even if they hadnt folded? Kev Roc: Probably. Not so much leaving but doing what were doing now which is doing our own s**t. Thats what Wu did, ya know, thats what made Wu attractive to somebody like Rifkind. X-Ray: We were doing that in the beginning before they met us anyway. We were trying to that on our own to begin with. Kev Roc: They recognize what this s**t is and I think Rifkind recognizes that in other people, he sees it, he gets it, and you wanna do business with like-minded folks. AllHipHop.com: Your album was recorded from 95-97, Loud folded in 2002, why was your debut never released? Kev Roc: Uhh, I don’t think I have an answer for that question. X-Ray: Well, after the Loud deal I started doing production for a lot of other groups and me and Kev just took some time off. AllHipHop.com: So, it was by choice, not because […]