Messy Marv: Back 2 Tha Bay

It’s crazy how an area that is so imitated can be so overlooked in the grand scheme of things. That is the case for the San Francisco Bay Area’s Hip-Hop scene. Whether it’s the slang that has been borrowed by the masses or the independent game that made virtual unknowns millionaires, the Bay is all […]

It’s crazy how

an area that is so imitated can be so overlooked in the grand scheme of things.

That is the case for the San Francisco Bay Area’s Hip-Hop scene. Whether it’s

the slang that has been borrowed by the masses or the independent game that

made virtual unknowns millionaires, the Bay is all about setting trends.

One of the major

players in setting those trends is Messy Marv. After being critically acclaimed

and street certified for ten years in the game, Messy Marv is ready to take

his career to a higher level.

The new album Disobayish is doing very well. How does it feel to be

back grinding with renewed focus?

Messy Marv: It

feels good homie, I been grinding, I ain’t never went nowhere

Yeah but the radio play and the media support is heating up now like it never

has before with the murder dog cover and the Source story and whatnot.

MM: I just went

down to the radio stations and the magazines and was real sincere with them.

I deserve this so I came at it with that approach.

With your albums you bring sincerity to the game of saying what’s on your mind

and your heart regardless of what people may think. Do you think the music industry

is ready for that?

MM: Actually man,

when you dealing with underground artists, that’s always been there. The game

been dealing with it since the NWA’s and the "f**k the Police" days.

It just depends on if a muthaf**ka’s gon’ be scary or not. It’s a lot of scared

muthaf**ka’s out here that don’t want to deal with the real s**t and whether

they like it or not they gon’ have to deal with it anyway.

What do you think needs to be done for the industry as a whole to shine more

light on the rappers in the Bay Area?

MM: Everybody just

needs to stay consistent and come with the cream, the good dope. In the Bay

Area what we’re known for is being pirates, everybody has their own label, we

like an industry within ourselves and I hate to say [it but] it’s a lot of bulls**t

coming out the Bay because everybody wants to be a rapper. Everybody’s been

looking on the Bay Area because I’m hearing our slang and everything about the

Bay in these other people’s lyrics and on they albums. The Bay has always been

a major part in this music industry whether they like it or not. We trendsetters

out here, its just that you don’t know if it came from The Bay Area because

these other people have put it out on their songs and you think its coming from

them, but all the time it came from here.

On your new album Disobayish, you are dissing 50 and Obie Trice. What made you

even give them any light on your album?

MM: As far as the

Obie Trice situation I just took it real personal that that dude came down to

my city of San Francisco, got on the radio station and said ‘the city showed

him love but he had to walk around with his ass on the wall’ and made a joke

like we was fa**ots or something, I took that real seriously. As far as 50,

real ni**as speak on a situation like the J. Prince’s and the other real rap

moguls of the industry and you see a dude live on TV dry snitching on another

man’s company. We put snitches out there like that, and that’s always been a

street thing, snitches don’t get no street credibility. So when you got real

ni**as speaking on it, other real ni**as pick it up and speak on it too. It’s

just like if you get your paperwork on a snitch ni**a, we put it out there like

that, now everybody around town is talking about it.

After getting offers from major label’s what makes you continue to stay independent

and do you ever plan on going the major label route?

MM: It’s just going

to take the paperwork making sense. In order for me to sign a deal its’ gotta

be right. I’m not scared of that, I want that.

On the last few albums you always have songs relating to women that are a different

vibe from your normal material. What makes you do that, are you looking for

radio or is it just something that you just decided to put down?

MM: It wasn’t the

radio, because the radio really doesn’t support me anyway, the streets support

me. It was just my maturity; it’s just a part of growing.

Unlike a lot of artists that aren’t on majors you have a lot of markets supporting

you, how did you get that love?

MM: It’s real man,

I feel like the world is a ghetto and everybody goes through the same struggles

and that’s why they pick up the tapes. They go through the same s**t I go through

so of course they gon’ pick it up just like they pick up the Jay-Z’s and whoever

else, they feel it. It’s funny, I went to New York and the hood really supported

me like ‘yo this s**t is real and it ain’t too many real muthaf**kas coming

up out The Bay Area like this and we could learn to love this and respect this.’

It was weird. I’m talking bout Cypress ni**as in the Cypress projects, Brownsville

ni**as, Brooklyn ni**as was really like this is some real s**t. ni**as is sleeping

on the Bay because it’s a lot of saturated weak ass s**t coming out The Bay

so muthaf**kas ain’t even looking at it.

What is your take on the whole New Bay movement considering you fall into it

a bit because although you’ve been putting it down for a long time, there are

a lot of new fans peeping you now?

MM: I’m just a

diamond in the rough waiting to get shined up real good. I don’t think it’s

a New Bay because I been doing this a long time and I ‘m just now getting the

recognition that I feel is due. I’m just going to continue doing my work and

putting it down. I don’t feel it’s a New Bay I feel that muthaf**kas are just

catching on.

You had a preview DVD that came with the Disobayish CD, what’s the

deal with the full length?

MM: The Diary that’s

gon’ be the biggest s**t, I’m going to drop that probably in July. I’m running

around the projects in New York, I went down South and I’m on the West coast

but I’m gonna show you these cities like you’ve never seen them before. Its

gon’ f**k you up, you gonna be like why is this dude not getting the platinum

sales and the recognition he needs to get, when he’s all out here and muthaf**kas

is supporting him. So I’m bringing it to the streets and bringing a visual on

how Mess gets down and how the streets love me.

On the preview you did a cover of a Bay Area classic "Jealousy" originally

done by Cougnut. What prompted that?

MM: Rest in Peace

Cougnut. Its just like Jam Master Jay, Pac Biggie, Aaliyah, its like you don’t

realize what you got till its gone. I just wanted to put it out there; everybody

goes through that jealousy and envy s**t. That was a good friend of mine, just

like anybody else would put it out there for they loved ones that past away.

What do you think you are bringing to the table that a lot of people are missing

out there?

MM: Quality music,

real music. Overall I feel like I’m the most complete artist.

For people that have no idea about San Francisco beyond the tourist attraction,

what is your message to them?

MM: I just want

to let them know, don’t get us f**ked up, its real concrete bricks out here,

its real projects, its real ni**as spending big money. Overlords, drug lords,

street lords really out here doing it, been putting it down for years. And its

real talent, like I said half these ni**as you see on BET and MTV, they ain’t

the ni**as; they got that from right here. That s**t ya’ll hear, that game they

hollering, they got that from right here. But we ain’t crying we just gon’ keep

coming and stay consistent. We letting the world know and you’ll be able to


Staying on that note, the murder rate has been increasing every year all over

The Bay, what is you take on that?

MM: I want to say

f**k the police first of all because they put on a front. An incident just happened,

one of these Africans in San Francisco killed a police officer and it was headlines,

front page. And what I’m saying is my ni**as die everyday and muthaf**kas don’t

even take the time to find out who did the killing or put the s**t on the front

page or nothing. The Source did an article in 98′ on me and my projects called

‘Casualties of War’ about how it took like 150 police officers to raid 13 spots

in my projects and its just like the police are dirty. So when you got that

and you ain’t got support from the community, of course you are going to have

a high killing rate. We need to support one another as far as us being black,

whether its rap or this community stuff, no matter what it is because the police

ain’t gon’ do it and the government ain’t gon’ do it. f**k Kuwait, that s**t

could wait, we warring everyday, ni**as walking around with AK’ s going to the

liquor store just to buy some juice, its real out here homie. And when you say

West Coast, they get The Bay mixed up with LA. I love LA, LA goes through what

they go through but we’re our own Mecca. It’s a lot of s**t that happens in

this Bay Area that everybody sleeps on and I feel like this is where all the

s**t comes from. Everybody comes out here with their dry ass sponges and soaks

up the game and [leaves]. As far as the murder rates, its going to continue

to happen if we don’t move towards a cause. Other than that its gon’ be war,

so I’ll see you ni**as on the field.

Anything you want to touch on before I let you go?

MM: Look out for

the Diary. And I really ain’t got no beef with 50 or Obie Trice or none of that

s**t, I’m just letting them ni**as know how it is where I’m from. You’ll always

be behind bars when you running your mouth. Keep your mouth closed and ni**as

won’t be getting at you. It ain’t no personal thing I’m just from the streets

and when you turf politicking, that’s how you get down.